Kissell being outraised by a Repub

cross-posted at dKos

While I was driving up to Chapel Hill yesterday for the Carolina-Florida State game (which we lost, unfortunately), I was shocked to see a sign along I-85 near Concord advertising a Republican candidate in NC-08 named Tim D'Annunzio. I saw another one near Kannapolis when I was driving home this morning. Now how the heck is this happening? I wondered. Then I found an article in last week's Charlotte Observer saying that this guy is outraising our guy, Larry Kissell.

Tim D'Annunzio of Raeford, a conservative who ran his own TV ads against Barack Obama last year, has more than $260,000 in his campaign account, according to reports filed Friday with the Federal Election Commission. Kissell has $245,000.

Considering that candidates in NC-08 have to run ads in Charlotte and the Triangle (Fayetteville, the second-biggest metro in the district, is part of the Triangle market), those numbers should make any Dem--especially in North Carolina--nervous.

D'Annunzio bills himself as "a conservative first, and then a Repbublican." He certainly proves it on his Website. He's got a section on his Website which argues the way to turn the House red again is to run red-meat conservatives in marginal districts. Um, yeah, that's worked well the last two years, hasn't it?

But there's something equally worrying. According to his bio page, D'Annunzio is a member of RockFish Church in Raeford. I did some clicking around, and that church is a member of Grace Churches International, a network of Latter Rain/New Apostolic Reformation churches located primarily in North Carolina. I know a little about this outfit, since their biggest church is based in Chapel Hill and had a small campus ministry there. In other words--D'Annunzio is a Sarah Palin-type dominionist.

Needless to say, folks, we can't afford to have Larry replaced by this winger next year. Send him some love--and let's keep two real Dems representing Charlotte in Congress.


I had to read that twice

I had to read your post twice Christian Dem to make sure I understood what you were saying.

Are you sure attacking an opponent's religion or religious affiliations is the way to political success?

Just askin'

I guess I take it personally

since I was briefly suckered into joining a dominionist outfit myself ... I'll have to share more about it tomorrow.

Sorry to hear that, C. Dem

I am really sorry to hear about what you say happened to you at the hands of some "dominionist outfit". But, you can't judge everything from that "narrow" point of view from what you endured or had to be involved in. I am not trying to judge the legitimacy of your past or trying to say that there is not similar situations and cults/institutions that gained control of you. I am just saying that I hope that people don't judge everything that happens in everyday life in America with regard to religion or even radical religious beliefs from something they had to endure. It makes people extremely narrow minded when they do that.

Please do not get me wrong here. I am not in any way sanctioning anything religiously radical that ends up donimating the free will and personal rights of those that are members of any religious belief or culture.

Foxy, I want you to

step back and ponder a few things, when you have a few minutes. Christian Dem has some direct experience associated with the Dominionist movement, and your advice is:

I am just saying that I hope that people don't judge everything that happens in everyday life in America with regard to religion or even radical religious beliefs from something they had to endure. It makes people extremely narrow minded when they do that.

But on another thread, and on the subject of Muslims in America, this is your opinion:

They haven't come here to blend into our culture as all others have. They have come here to CHANGE our culture to meet theirs.

Do you see the conflict here? Even if you had been forced to (personally) endure some negative Muslim-related incident or coercion, by your own advice, you shouldn't judge other Muslims by that experience. And chances are, you haven't been personally maltreated by Muslims, so your across-the-board indictment of Muslims in America is even more at odds with your advice to Christian Dem.

I've spent some time with Muslims, Foxtrot. I'm not talking about sipping latte's in a wifi cafe, or chatting with a cabbie named Mahmoud, although I have done those things. I'm talking about spending weeks at a time out in the middle of BF Nowhere, where the Christians are outnumbered by Muslims 100 to 1. And I slept like a baby who just polished off a bottle and had a good burp. Yes, there's a small percentage of Muslims who already have or will cross the line into fanaticism, but the vast, vast majority are some of the nicest people you could ever meet. Please don't forget that.

I hear you, Sharrison

I understand what you are saying and know that you want to protect the best interests of everyone in our country. I do not have a problem with that. There is a difference in what I believe with regard to "radical religious beliefs" and what I believe with regard to those that come to our country to change our customs to meet their own. I can see that it is a fine line and, again, I understand you questioning those two posts of mine as being somehow "counter" to each other.

I do not equate "religious beliefs" with "customs and mores" as it pertains to our own American culture. We are, first and foremost, a country that believes that religious freedom is sacrosanct. To me, our customs and heritage and laws are just as important to us, as a country. An example of this is that our laws say that women have the right to choose abortion. Christian beliefs do not agree with that, yet, it is still the law (if you get my drift here)
Bringing in another culture that wants to CHANGE America even in the smallest amount seems to violate me, somehow.

I guess we could discuss or argue this for days on end, but it is how I feel. I honestly believe that the muslims that come into various countries, regardless whether they are good folks or not, want to change their customs to meet theirs (and have been somewhat successful in doing that), to change their country to accomodate their beliefs and way of life. We are America. We already HAVE our way of life. We have existed as a country under one direction longer than any other country. We have been successful at what we do (with noted exceptions, certainly) and the VAST majority of we Americans are happy with our way of life. Like I presented in an earlier post, if you look at other countries that have had a large immigration of muslims (most notably France and Great Britain and some countries in Western Europe), there have been major problems we just do not need in America.

I do not question your friends or associations with muslims you have met and know. I am certain they are very good, solid citizens and friends and people. It goes beyond that, however, in my opinion.

Paranoia runs deep

I know plenty of Christians who want to "change" our country. They are working to revise history as we speak, attempting to inject faith into every dimension of politics.

Your ideas about Muslim people in America wanting to change your way of life seem irrationally paranoid to me, and more than a little racist. The Muslims I know couldn't care less about trying to reshape your way of life one way or the other ... any more than Jews, pagans, Unitarians or whatever. People just want to be able to live their own lives without fear of discrimination.

Can you tell me specifically what customs in your life are being threatened by Muslims? I don't see it.

My ancestors on my mother's side were American Indians. If you want to focus on people whose lives have been upended by European immigrants and whose culture was decimated by Christian imperialists, you might start thinking about them.

Foxtrot, when you say "our" country, I assume you include people like me as part of the term "our." If that's true, and if my half of "our" doesn't agree with your half, where does that leave us?

In my view, it leaves us with an obligation to go back to basics. All men (and women) are created equal, not just all natural-born Americans.

Now I feel bad

Okay, now I feel horrible. I guess you guys are correct. I am a bit paranoid on this issue. I have read too many negatives about muslim immigration in other countries, I guess.

I'm not a racist because I do not believe any race is genetically any better than any other. I do not personally know any muslim people and have nothing against them. I am not a bigot either, at least I hope not.

I wish I had not gotten started on this line again.

No need to feel bad

We all have our demons. This isn't about being right or wrong, in my view. It's about having conversations that open up new possibilities.

Your willingness to say what you think and listen and engage and be honest in this community has done as much to further that cause for all of us than anything that has happened in recent months.

No worries, Foxtrot. You can feel bad if you need to, but I would invite you get off that track. Getting stuck in the past is something we all do, it's a big problem for me. But it's not terribly useful. Maybe we can all help each other move into the present, with an eye on the future.

All is well.

Thanks, James

You know, I think sometimes I get all caught up because of how much I read and how much I listen to on the "tube". I should get out more :), I guess. Sometimes I do go overboard in my thought process. A lot of people do that but will not admit it. I just hope the people that put messages on here do not think I am some kind of racist or bigot for what I've said. I have to admit I do still have this vision of America becoming something besides what "my America" was and has been and hopefully still is because of what we have been talking about. I hate what we did with the native Indian population here. That was just wrong even if the end result was pretty much a good thing overall and I am further embarrassed by what I've put here because of what you've said about your own heritage in that respect.

I know what is in my gut but that does not mean that my gut will not change its message to my brain which is, of course, more analytical and reasoned.

America then and now

Foxy, it is the nature of our country to change and adapt, and most of those changes represent progress. Not all, but most. If it weren't for that adaptability, God knows what kind of nation we would be right now.

And we all need to get out more. If I had to put a finger on a way that America has changed for the worse, it is that. When I drive by a school, and I don't see any bicycles in the rack (if they even have a rack), it makes me sad. When I drive through neighborhoods on Saturday afternoons, and all I see is one kid shooting hoops morosely by himself, it makes me sad. When I was a kid, me and my friends rode our bikes everywhere, and we wouldn't even think about "going inside" until someone's mom yelled that it was dinnertime. And then we'd all realize we were starving, and fly home. :)

D'Annunzio gave himself almost all of the money he reports

I met him on Thursday. I don't care what his religion is, but some of his political views give me pause.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.