Maddow on Art Pope, AFP, NCGOP (with updated Puppetshow Map!)

Wednesday Rachel Maddow explored the people behind the groups behind the healthcare townhall takeover mobs. She gave a big shout out to Art Pope and Americans for Prosperity about half way through the 10 minute segment [5:30], noting that the NC Republican Party headquarters building in Raleigh bears the family name.

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UPDATE:

Always a good idea to keep the whole Puppetshow in perspective.

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**assroots

This **assroots connection to Art Pope seems to have been picked up around the country but I hadn't noticed that the national attention caught the attention of NC media.

Odd, isn't it?

One of the master manipulators of NC politics is behind this mess, and not a mention in the papers or on TV. Maybe RadioGirl can do a story on this.

Looks like the Fauxtesters

have been called out.

John Wayne shoots Art at the Alamo?

She gave a big shout out to Art Pope and Americans for Prosperity about half way through the 10 minute segment [5:30], noting that the NC Republican Party headquarters building in Raleigh bears the family name.* greg

Somewhat true? But the offical name of the Building if one looks on the Front Sign is call the " John Wayne" Building name after the Duke! If the Duke was alive today, somehow I suspect he would have Art Pope as a target practice dummbee at the Alamo movie set.

Go Rachel and expose the phony pricks more!

Same Question

I guess I'll pose the same question here. Why is "phony" when a right wing group rallies people together, but "grassroots" when Moveon.org does it?

It would seem that when right wing groups rally, there is a full

corporate media buy in, which makes the gathering not grassroots but fauxroots. As I'm sure you are aware, grassroots means people getting together via word of mouth, flyers on the street, etc.

Astroturf means that there is a group behind the situation which is paying for airtime, or in Fox News (heh) case, advocating for people to do a certain thing at a certain time in order to obtain the corporate goal. Corporate goals are not grassroots. They are astroturf.

MoveOn does not have a corporate sponsership and does not have a media outlet.

I hope that helps.

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

That is an interesting

That is an interesting perspective, but it would seem to me that the goal for these people is to keep the government from taking over their health care decisions. If Americans for Prosperity, or any other group, send an email asking for like minded people to meet up at an event to protest a plan they all disagree with being pushed by their Congressman I don't see how that is any different from MoveOn.org or Code Pink or any other group that does the same thing. Both Americans for Prosperity and MoveOn.org are the messengers. The people show up at their own accord.

The people are either grassroots or astroturf as you stated

I answered you already, and this reply changes nothing. The reality is you already know that, but just want to pretend.

MoveON now.

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

Here's one (big) difference:

AFP, and many of the smaller orgs that are engaged in the same rhetoric, receive the lion's share of their funding from corporate entities. Exxon funds them to attack stuff like climate change and mass transit, and various health industries (pharmaceuticals, insurers/underwriters, etc.) fund them to attack government regulation and health care reform. In other words, these industries are spending money to buy themselves a grassroots disguise.

And although George Soros has given a lot of funding to MoveOn, its 3+ million members have donated much more. He's kind of like Warren Buffet. A lot of his political ideas would actually cut into his profits some if/when they come into being.

There you go

using logic again. That's gonna get you nowhere, Mr. Steve.

Used Brownshirts Uniforms for sale to Town Hall GOP's! Cheap!

I guess I'll pose the same question here. Why is "phony" when a right wing group rallies people together, but "grassroots" when Moveon.org does it?* Carolina Politics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

Hitler, with an eye always to growing the party through propaganda, convinced the leadership committee to invest in an advertisement in the Munchener Beobachter (later renamed the Volkischer Beobachter) for a mass meeting in the Hofbrauhaus, to be held on 16 October 1919. Some 70 people attended, and a second such meeting was advertised for 13 November in the Eberlbrau beer hall. Some 130 people attended; there were hecklers, but Hitler's military friends promptly ejected them by force, and the agitators "flew down the stairs with gashed heads." The next year, on 24 February, he announced the party's Twenty-Five Point program at a mass meeting of some 2000 persons at the Hofbrauhaus. Protesters tried to shout Hitler down, but his army friends, armed with rubber truncheons, ejected the dissenters. The basis for the SA had been formed.

Excellent Question? That same question was asked during the 20's in Germany. When members of the National Socialist Party started wearing Brownshirt uniforms to local Beer hall Town meeting and started beating the heads of the local democrat Communists Union leaders to prove the point on who had the floor for speaking to the local Mayor and city council about the vast unemployment, and other assorted democrat principles that were going nowhere with the National Socialist Party..........http://mencken.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/munich-beer-hall-tactics/