NC Governor 2008 Debate Open Thread

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Role of Governor

Munger expresses the nuance of the Governor's role better than McCrory. Perdue expands on it.

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dangit. Have to watch the recording.

"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Drill

McCrory spinning offshore oil boom fantasy

Taxes

McCrory lies about NC income and sales taxes. Meets with CEO of Wells Fargo but never stopped Wachovia offshoring jobs.

McCrory just lying through his teeth

McCrory lies about his Raleigh NC grandstanding "crime" visit

Munger lies about corporate tax

Sorry Mike, I don't think our tax system is keeping business away. It is preventing us from building the infrastructure needed to attract and keep business.

McCrory wants to ban calculators

Wants to throw out calculators in elementary schools.

Wants to "re-introduce" vocational training in schools. Newsflash Pat: It's always been there.

Pat has never made it out of the city

Rural schools have very strong vocational training programs



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They should be expanded

The definitely should be expanded, but they have never disappeared for most students.

"never made it out of the city" haha. sad but true.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

McCrory wants to cut down medical tests.

McCrory wants to cut down medical tests and "mandates"

Sorry Pat, early diagnosis and case management saves money and lives.

...and smart-ass butt-ins don't cut it.

thanks for doing this greg!

thanks for doing this greg!

Immigration

McCrory blames greedy employers but won't lock employers up

Budget

McCrory kind of bland formulaic response.

Rebuttals

Someone ought to be counting McCrory's butt-ins

Water

Munger answers actually smart on this topic

I thought Bev handled the challenge well

Couldn't do anything unless the President declared a state of emergency.



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Slam DUNK BEV

Wonderful!

I'm referring to her reminding smartass Pat McCrory that Jim Martin was Governor when the transfer from the trust fund was put in place.

Now McCrory has to use that, "it's called trust for a reason." I guess maybe he should have told Jim Martin that.



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Lightning round: gas tax

Gas tax too high?

Sorry but gas revenues are too low but as Bev Perdue states we need a new more stable source of revenue for transportation.

McCrory deviates to income tax and grandstands misleadingly on HTF transfer.

Drill baby drill?

Jobs Pat? But you love outsourcing

Bev on oil

Good knowledgeable response on reality of offshore drilling.

And good play, she's drawn Pat out on a rebuttal. Let's use oil revenue to clean up the oil pollution.????

Munger steals votes from McCrory

He sounds so much smarter than McCrory.

Bev sounds better than McCrory.



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State government work hours

Pat wanders off topic into urban legends with his arrogance meme

Can you expand on state employees?

"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Munger on schools

Wants to remove building codes?????

Voucher

Pat lies about Downs syndrome children not having choices.

I'd love to slap MCCrory. I

I'd love to slap MCCrory. I mean slap that smirk off his face good.

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Bogeyman

Pat McCrory is running against the Bogeyman, a fictional nemesis.

Pat is a walking repository

Pat is a walking repository of logical fallacies.

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Videos

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His pipe dreams of off shore

His pipe dreams of off shore drilling creating "jobs!jobs!jobs!" smacks of another Global Trans Park debacle.

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Pardon me if I missed it,

Pardon me if I missed it, but has Pat ever mentioned bringing more high tech industry to NC? He seems oblivious to the the existence of RTP.

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Gubernatorial so-called debate

We need to completely change the format and sponsors of these debates. Go back and look at all of the primary debates in both parties and the general election debates. The questions are all the generalized, obvious, constantly repeated questions with minimal if any follow up. All the viewing public gets are the same canned soundbites that the candidates have been regurgitating forever. The media is TERRIBLE!!! Can't anyone out there with a press pass ask an intelligent, probing question with pointed follow ups? As for this debate and for all of you Perdue supporters, if you want 4 more years of the same failures then keep electing the Marc Basnight (the REAL puppetmaster) puppets. Then instead of an inauguration in January, 2009 we can simply crown King Marc. Perdue is TERRIBLE!

McCrory is horrifyingly catastrophic

.....if Perdue is terrible.



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Pat's Deer in the Headlights Show

Now more aggressive moderators would be wonderful. I'd love to see Pat's deer in the headlights look again. McCrory is not that swift on his mental feet, so having him go unscripted would be a bonus - for the Dems.

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Thanks, Greg

I've been driving back from DC for the past five hours and missed the darn thing. Sounds like Pat McCain was true to form - an arrogant, obnoxious, whiny corporatist who doesn't know how to behave himself.

Great job summarizing the high points.
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Doubts about Dole?

Stump chump

I didn't hear anything new from McCrory. He only seems capable of delivering lines from his stump speech. I've heard his material so much I could deliver it.

Based on these comments I

Based on these comments I can assume that Bev won. If that's true, with such a large audience, hopefully we can see some higher poll numbers soon.

If I had to pick

I would say Munger won. He had some off the deep end comments, but for the most part was better informed and more specific than McCrory.

He will take some votes from McCrory. I think Munger has ensured the Libs will remain on the NC ballot for a while.

McCain Uses Bailout to Steal Election

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This is to put the media on notice that not repudiating the likes of the smiling hatemonger, Sarah Palin, will not be tolerated, even if I have to send this message out to every last person in America myself. First and foremost, Sarah Palin’s ranting and raving has been a great distraction from Wall Street’s outrageous heist of 700 billion taxpayer dollars. And just what are the (uniformly) Republican bankers going to do with all that money? Have the bailed out investment banks finance the miracle recovery of the stock market, just on time for Election Day. McCain gave the plan away at the Al Smith dinner the other night in his joke about a stock market recovery. McCain didn’t mean the joke to be funny, for he will take credit for this conspired miracle that will happen to pick up the votes of millions of deliriously relieved 401-K holders and steal the election from Obama. The (uniformly) Republican Wall Streeters have been interfering with the economy all along, as with outrageous jiggling of the price of oil and gas, in order to confuse the issues and take the voters’ minds off the greedy, stupid, war mongering Republican government we‘ve had for the last eight years. Stop struggling with your paycheck to attain your dreams, trusting citizens, for with the inflation coming to pay for the bailout that will cut your paycheck in half, you’ll be lucky to get by and not become homeless. No one will feel the pain more than retirees on fixed income, many of whom will be eating dog food soon. And if the conservatives pull off retaining the White House, expect capitalism to kill off the runaway slaves in a Contessa Palin led American Patriot Inquisition and for General Daffy Duck to be leading us boldly into Cold War II with the Russians and possible nuclear Armageddon.
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